Comments on: Welcome to CARMA!

By: Nicolaas Heyning

Nicolaas Heyning — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:59:08 +0000

Fighting pollution is a good thing, but it wil not stop the increase in CO2 emission – at best it will slow the growth of it.

Countries like China and India will steadily get richer, which will increase their output per person. And there are lots of people and they all want their share of course.

Only China has implemented a sound CO2 program which the world should follow. But this takes realy courage, so it will take years for the rest of the world to follow. What I mean is the one child policy; this has resulted in 400 million less people then otherwise, that is more than the total USA population. Can you think of any bigger reduction in emissions?

By: Mario

Mario — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:50:28 +0000

Thank you for your data, I took them for my blog.

I wrote today about the carbon emissions of the power plants of the world.

This is the link.

http://paroleverdi.blogosfere.it/2007/12/la-lista-nera-delle-emissioni-di-co2-nel-mondo.html

Thank you.
Mario

By: oliveira

oliveira — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:07:17 +0000

After reading your report, I am very proud to be a Brazilian, since among the 50 first countries that produce most C02 emissions, just Brazil and France received the Big Green tag. We got this tag because our Energy sources rely mostly on Hydro Power (not Fossil or Nuclear Power). In addition to that (not part of your report), our cars have used ethanol as a fuel for more than 30 years, which is a renewable source of energy. Therefore, we can stand up and say loudly to the world: you can put no blame on us for global warming, despite all the (bad) problems that occur in Amazon. Look at our power matrix and see what you can learn from it, in case you really want to reduce CO2 emissions and reduce global warming.

By: DOR

DOR — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:13:15 +0000

15 November 2007

Serious Errors of CLP emissions data in Carbon Monitoring for Action (CARMA) Study

A new database released in Washington DC this week contained serious errors of fact on carbon emissions for the Castle Peak Power Station and is now to be corrected by the organisation involved.

Following representation from CLP, the CARMA organization has confirmed that they will correct the record and its database on carbon emissions.

Despite publicly available figures that have been independently audited, CARMA instead reports emissions for Castle Peak Power Station in Hong Kong that are more than twice these actual verified levels. CARMA incorrectly quoted emission figures for Castle Peak of 35.8 million tons. The actual figure is 13.3 million tons for 2006, which is significantly lower than the top 10 listed.

In addition, the CARMA website lists Hok Un Power Station, as part of CLP’s existing generating portfolio in Hong Kong. In actual fact, Hok Un Power Station was decommissioned in the early 1990s and the site is now occupied by a large property development.

Independently verified total CO2 emissions from CLP Power’s entire generation capacity in Hong Kong, as well as the total electricity sent out from all our Hong Kong stations in 2006 is publicly available on our Group website:

https://www.clpgroup.com/SocNEnv/SER/Performance/KeyPerofrmance/Pages/default.aspx

https://www.clpgroup.com/Abt/Res/Pub/Pages/default.aspx

This data reflects that the total CO2 emissions for 2006 from all our three power stations: Castle Peak Power Station, Black Point Power Station and Penny’s Bay Power Station, was 17.99 million tons (still less than CARMA’s estimated 35.8 million tons for just Castle Peak). The total electricity sent out from all three stations was 25,024 GWh (less than CARMA’s estimate of 28,200 GWh for just Castle Peak).

Given such significant errors of fact we believe CARMA has a responsibility to correct this information as a matter of priority and we have requested urgent corrective action.

CLP’s emissions of CO2 per kilowatt hour (kWh) electricity sold in Hong Kong in 2006 was 0.53kg CO2/kWh and CLP continues to pursue a range of initiatives to reduce carbon emissions, including moving to introduce an LNG terminal to Hong Kong to allow us to increase gas in our fuel mix.

Jane Lau

Director – Group Public Affairs

CLP Holdings Limited

By: m m

m m — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:10:23 +0000

There are tons of more Powerplants in Japan. you guys have only one that is shown on the map. Japan is in the TOP TEN for Global Warming Contributor. Why aren’t they more in details. Or is Japan or a Japanese firm funding you guys to keep the voice down ?
Japan is the country that held the Kyoto Protocol but they haven’t done much.
electrical Generation here accounts for approximately a third of total emission by this country but unfortunately, they are not doing much in reality. What’s worse is that they have manufacturer’s advertising that say electrical appliances are more green. which is not true when it comes to cooking appliances.
Also Japan builds one of the best solar electric systems but they sell those systems way cheaper outside of the country, which is usually called dumping. And which is also why Solar Electric Power generation has not grown much in Japan.
It is very sad. Only if they realize that the future depends on each and everyones action.

By: Stanislav Lem

Stanislav Lem — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:17:34 +0000

We have to focus on demand side as well, not only supply.
How does the database account for the fact that there is also quite a bit of electricity trading going on between various continental countries. US buys a lot of electricity from Mexico and Canada power plants. Ukraine and Russia export a lot of electricity to their western neighbors.

By: Ian Walker

Ian Walker — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:23:03 +0000

How to save the world from global warming

1) Colocate Sewage Plants and Power Stations and Farms. Feed Output (Heat CO2 steam) from Power Stations into Farms (CO2 plus lighting for night growth + poo for fertilizer) Harvest O2 and use in Power Station during day: better efficiency + captured carbon + food & better use of water. Why throw water and poo away – it’s nice Could also use fly ash in farms as well. Turn those stacks sideways!!!!! Turn them into giant mass spectrometers….

2) Accelerate developing nations consumption of *atmospheric* CO2 by planned obsolescence and conspicuous consumption. Sequester the obsolete goods thrown away by the newly fickle… This way the new Industrial Revolution can be used to counter the effects of the old one, and most will make lots of money…

3) make american vehicles out of carbon fiber and PET – sourced from *atmospheric carbon* – the japanese will follow as they do… and sequester the obsolete vehicles. This way the wanton aggrandisement so typical of western cultures can be used to advantage – no reliance on being ‘green’ here!

4) recycling is bad!! this is basic thermodynamics…

thats how ya do it.

Remember -going green is what you do just before you die

By: Hermann Schaefer

Hermann Schaefer — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:10:36 +0000

So nuclear power is green. Fine. Sorry, I must have missed the final solution for nuclear waste then. Hydroelectric power plants and dams are green. Good. Tell it to the salmons, tell it to the ones at the end of the chain. Sorry, but this is stupid. No question, a coal-burning power plant isn’t really up-to-date and solar, air and geothermic energy is the way to go. To sum up just the carbon dioxide is one-sided and one-eyed and totally misses the complex of problems. Not to mention all the other missing sources of CO2, methane and all the other greenhouse gases.

By: john prentice

john prentice — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:25:05 +0000

WHAT IS BEING DONE TO EDUCATE CHINA AND INDIA OF USING CLEANER BURNING
COAL FIRED ELECTRIC POWER STATIONS.?
WHAT CAN CANADA AND EUROPE DO TO PUT PRESSURE ON THESE TWO COUNTRIES TO BECOME MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR G.H.G. EMMISSIONS.?
CAN CANADA AND THE USA START BOYCOTTING CHINA TO CLEAN UP THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AS WELL AS THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:08:49 +0000

Wouldn’t it be nice if global warming was a hippie scam? Wouldn’t it be nice if my truck had nothing to do with anthropogenic climatic fluxes? What causes lightning? Why do boats float? What’s at the bottom of the ocean? These questions are not offensive unitl they begin to overtake our consumer ways. There is a Nobel Prize waiting for anyone who can suggest that global warming is not anthropogenic. But hurry, Stockholm could very well be 6 meters underwater in our near future.

Actually they wouldn’t even listen to you. Many scientists and engineers contest the conclusions of IPCC data due to the positive reinforcement loops in their models. The models suggest a natural process that autoaccelerates. If this were true, global warming would be impossible to stop or prevent. Once CO2 was in the air, it would never come out and self perpetuate. There is no doubt some of these models are flawed, but this doesn’t mean global warming isn’t real, merely that the threat is overstated in order to draw research funds.

The way climate discussion is today, dissent is actually not allowed. Nobody at the IPCC will suggest anything other than the doom scenario even though many very good scientists are skeptical of this model. The behavior is called “academic inbreeding” where like minded people bring in only those similar to themselves in a university. Unfortunately, global warming still isn’t pure science, it’s a lot of speculation.

It is important, however, to remember that research and concern is warranted either way. There just won’t be public funds if people don’t think they are going to all drown. Mind you, the polar icecaps are going to melt someday…they haven’t been there forever.